Only a video... Note to other admins: This contains no code, no secrets, nothing that could be used to create an unlocking utility. It's just a screen capture video of a braindead-easy point and click unlocking utility I wrote (from scratch, not a GUI wrapper), being used with PV2Tool.
I'm not even a very skilled programmer. Visual Basic is the extent of my programming ability and I'm a bit rusty at that. I'm also not trying to brag, this isn't about me saying "Hey, look what I can do!", so much as it is to show what PureDigital is trying to prevent. I started work on this back when Cronus was first released and had it 90% of the way done when PureDigital posted their takedown. Per PureDigital's request, the only thing anyone will get to see of "Clear 2 Receive", is this video.
http://media.putfile.com/Clear-2-Receive-Demo
bobbarker- 07-27-2006
I had basically the same thing done (VB6...w00t!) and the thread went away with all of the stuff that happened with PD (because it was packaged with that program). It was a simple GUI tool though...not from the ground up like yours. :cry:
GotAnMP3- 07-27-2006
I had basically the same thing done (VB6...w00t!) and the thread went away with all of the stuff that happened with PD (because it was packaged with that program).
This actually, is all my own code & standard encryption libraries. Unfortunately, it's what it does (and more to the point, the keys it contains) that PureDigital would have a problem with, not how it was written. I've been through this once before with some CueCat software I wrote and I lucked out because they went under before they could sue me.
And that's not a rigged demo, it really does pull the challenge right from OPS or PV2tool when loaded, convert it and let you append it to your *keys.txt file - meaning you can do the entire operation with the mouse. I intended it as a stopgap until OPS/PV2Tool got updated, but I don't think Clear 2 Receive or an OPS/PV2tool with built-in keygen will ever see the light of day.
PureDigital got what they wanted - I won't release it. But they have no rights whatsoever to expect me to "unwrite" it. 8)
bobbarker- 07-28-2006
but I don't think Clear 2 Receive or an OPS/PV2tool with built-in keygen will ever see the light of day.
Does code ever really see "light" or "day"?
Yeah all the people who worked on that app were on to something for sure, guess it wasn't meant to be. *sigh*
carpespasm- 07-28-2006
but I don't think Clear 2 Receive or an OPS/PV2tool with built-in keygen will ever see the light of day.
Does code ever really see \"light\" or \"day\"?
Yeah all the people who worked on that app were on to something for sure, guess it wasn't meant to be. *sigh*
i'd say some digital camera and camcorder software sees the light of day in a certain sense. yet can it truely conceptualize it's beauty? that my friends is still a question left to the technocratic theologists
bobbarker- 07-28-2006
Well if I may cite the movie Terminator 2 we will see that robots, even though they may be learning computers, still see in a form of red only filter vision. Which for technology from 2027, is disapointing. Although when "Uncle Bob" first spots John Connor, we see that he zooms in on his face, and suddenly renders a pixelated version in to a nice higher resolution image which is in Black and White. Which means that their vision is not only limited to red crap. Why would PD...erm...Skynet not give their robots full color imaging? Either way this leads me to the fact that I declare this thread in the name of ThreadJacked!
enigma-- 07-28-2006
Funny, I was working on a C++ version of the same thing, no GUI though, but at the warning from PD, I COMPLETELY deleted it, i went into the directory and did a rm *
E_tron- 07-28-2006
has there been any contact with PD outside of their post on this forum?
radarman- 07-28-2006
Guys, you can publish all the code & info you want on private websites. No one is telling you that you can distribute your work - just not here.
Frankly, I've been seriously considering building a copy of Ops with the encryption built into it for my own personal use. I was planning to call it "PDQuick" :)
Remember, they told the forum to pull the info - not individual users. As a private person, you are free to do what you like on your own time, with your own resources.
brite_eye- 07-28-2006
Slightly contrary to radarman's suggestions which leave the decision open to an individual, I would suggest that to protect presumed innocent here from a Pandora's box court battle that everyone hold off any publication of algorithm in code or simple information until more legal opinions have been expressed.
radarman- 07-28-2006
My point was that it was none of our business what people do in their own time, with their own resources. I know I'm not going to patrol the Internet for PureDigital's benefit. If they want to send individuals unrelated to this forum C&D's, that's their business.
I hate to see people censoring themselves beyond this forum, when that is unnecessary. Let me clarify - the forum admins have NO position on the posting of utilities beyond this forum. We neither encourage, nor dissuade, anyone from writing tools such as these. It's your business, and we aren't going to mind it.
What do have a position on is that we won't allow discussion, or links, to such tools on this forum.
Let me add one thing - if you downloaded stuff from the PD FTP site, you are probably in the same pickle as the forum itself. Something to consider.
GotAnMP3- 07-28-2006
Well, as one of the admins on this board, PureDigital could still come down on here for software I post elsewhere. There's also enough public information about me posted that PureDigital could do what DigitalConvergance did to send me a C&D back in the day. (I'm not going to say it because I don't want to give them any ideas, but it's a lot simpler than asking my ISP who owns the static IP I'm on)
So for the time being, I think it's a terrible idea to post unlocking utilities - here or elsewhere.
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